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Demetra: Are you seeing anything different from a

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financial perspective in the second year of the pandemic?

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For example, are you seeing any new issues come up

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as practitioners' emergency cash reserves run dry?

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Or is there a new way of thinking about cash flow,

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as practioners realize the pandemic is probably going on

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little longer than we all originally expected?

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Calvin: I think we, we would certainly see

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that there has been sort of an increased emphasis on

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you know, looking at different ways

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of operating the business again.

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And taking a really serious look at

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is there a financial plan for the business,

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is there actually a business plan?

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And so, we have had lots of
conversations with clients,

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certainly over the last several months, as to

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perhaps this is a really good time to reevaluate

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our administration levels, staffing levels,

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exactly how much we need in the way of,

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if we've got space coming up for renewal, for leasing,

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do we need to be where we are and do we need to have

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the shear amount space that we have today?

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So, a lot of these things of course in the past

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weren't probably given enough thought in some cases.

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So, it really--, we have seen this heightened awareness of,

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this is a business at the end of the day as well,

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and we need to see what the best way obviously,

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to meet our patients needs,

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at the same time obviously, to be able to

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meet your own personal,

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personal financial commitments as well.